On another blog, FideCogitActio, some theists of a "classical" stripe (that's to say, like Brian Davies, Edward Feser) are criticisng the Evil God Challenge (or I suppose, trying to show how it can be met, or sidestepped). The main post includes this: In book I, chapter 39 , Aquinas argues that “there cannot be evil in God” (in Deo non potest esse malum). Atheists like Law must face the fact that, if the words are to retain any sense, “God” simply cannot be “evil”. As my comments in the thread at Feser’s blog aimed to show, despite how much he mocks “the privation theory of evil,” Law himself cannot escape its logic: his entire argument requires that the world ought to appear less evil if it is to be taken as evidence of a good God. Even though he spurns the idea that evil is a privation of good, his account of an evil world is parasitic on a good ideal; this is no surprise, though, since all evil is parasitic on good ( SCG I, 11 ). Based on the conclusions of se...
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It's a false analogy relative to the EGC. The good god hypothesis isn't significanly more reasonable than the evil god hypothesis.
Both fall far short in explanatory power relative to a 3rd hypothesis: the source(s) of all matter and energy are either a mix of good and evil (if teleological) or amoral (whether teleological or not).
If I see an oil painting composed of various shades of blues & reds, and I'm convinced that its creator belonged to an "omni-red-ist" aesthetic movement, I'd have to address the Problem of Blue. The hypothesis of an "omni-blue-ist" creator must address the Problem of Red.
The person who posits the existence of an unbiased source of the painting, like a deist or atheist relative to theistic hypotheses, has no need of theodicies.
I keep hearing this divine nature/character/essense response to the Euthyphro. Do any philosophers of religion (not apologists) take this response seriously?
These are the same people who (properly) point out the naturalistic fallacy when it arises. You cannot derive an ought from an is. yhwh's nature _is_ compatible with global drowning of babies, rape, genocide, slavery, etc. Just because that _is_ its nature, is that how it _ought_ to behave?
No one determined what yhwh's nature would be, as it was uncreated. Does this not mean yhwh's nature is arbitrary?
Enjoyed the heavy breathing, though.
He rather scared me by the irrationality of his beliefs.
His Final Response is particularly chilling in its disconnect from reality.
I just can't put myself in the mind of somebody who could write such words.
However, I advocate Polytheism--hopefully getting a case for Polytheism published soon--and don't think we need to entertain the ultimatum: there are both good and evil deities. I believe it's reasonable to infer the moral character of deities from our perceptual knowledge of them. You might say even if there were veridical religious experiences of deities that appeared to be good or evil, they could just be fooling us. But, I see no reason to think it's *irrational* to maintain our normal epistemic practice of trusting that things are as they appear to be until we have good reason not to.