Those of you that have been reading this blog for a while will know that I have spent some time arguing for the abolition of private schools. I just noticed Alan Bennett takes the same view.
By the way, today's Independent (p.2.) reports that "Students from poor backgrounds 'catch up' at university".
There's an interesting experiment going on at St George's Medical School in London, where you need only show that your A level results are 60% better than the average for your school to get in.
Yet, in their first year final exams, these students' marks were only 1 percent lower than those admitted under the standard route.
Here's a further little bit of evidence to support my earlier contention that we have nothing remotely like a meritocracy in this country. And, assuming we want those with the most native wit and talent to fly highest, nor will we until we ban private schools, which allow a small minority of parents to buy their own second-rate children a ticket to the front of the good jobs queue at the expense of more talented, but poorer, kids.
Indeed, the mere 7% of kids who are privately educated dominate the high status, high earning professions. Because they have more native wit and talent? Pull the other one...
[POST SCRIPT. Incidentally, independent schools' charitable status is justified on the grounds that they provide bursaries and scholarships for the less well off.
Couple of anecdotes for you:
(i) The two kids of some relatives of mine achieved bursaries for them to attend an independent school. But the money was pulled two years later, after the kids had bedded in. The parents now face the prospect of uprooting their children and sending them back to the awful school they fled from, or else finding the eye-watering fees. The same parents tell me they have discovered that bursaries that suddenly disappear like this shortly after the kids have become well-established is a not uncommon occurrence, and may even be a marketing strategy on the part of some schools (so beware).
(ii) The son of a friend of mine separated from his (not rich) mother got an almost full bursary at a famous Oxford school with fees of £7,000 a term. The selection process? A non-academic interview, with Dad in tow to see if the school thought the little chap would (as Dad said) "fit in". I am sure that the fact that the kid is well-spoken, his father a posh-voiced New College school boy and his grandad a Knight of the Realm won't have had anything to do with their generous support for one of the less "privileged" members of our community.
How many kids from local council estates are getting such places, I wonder?
Yes I know it's anecdotes, but I'd love to see some hard statistics on who is getting bursaries and scholarships, what the criteria are, what selection is taking place, etc.
Scholarships and bursaries are small change to these institutions. The fact that the few they do give out are being dished out so cynically in at least some cases should surely strengthen the case for at least pulling their charitable status.
I see the Independent Schools Council says they have "little to fear" from questions from the Charity Commission about public benefit. If the Charity Commission investigates more thoroughly, I suspect the independent sector has a great deal to fear. Here's the sort of question I'd like the C.C. to press: how many children from council estates receive bursaries? And what percentage of those receiving bursaries come from families where neither parent was either privately educated or attended a grammar school? I think this kind of information would be rather more revealing than just data about parental income. In particular, I suspect it would reveal that kids of the educated middle classes are actually the main beneficiaries.
By the way, today's Independent (p.2.) reports that "Students from poor backgrounds 'catch up' at university".
There's an interesting experiment going on at St George's Medical School in London, where you need only show that your A level results are 60% better than the average for your school to get in.
Yet, in their first year final exams, these students' marks were only 1 percent lower than those admitted under the standard route.
Here's a further little bit of evidence to support my earlier contention that we have nothing remotely like a meritocracy in this country. And, assuming we want those with the most native wit and talent to fly highest, nor will we until we ban private schools, which allow a small minority of parents to buy their own second-rate children a ticket to the front of the good jobs queue at the expense of more talented, but poorer, kids.
Indeed, the mere 7% of kids who are privately educated dominate the high status, high earning professions. Because they have more native wit and talent? Pull the other one...
[POST SCRIPT. Incidentally, independent schools' charitable status is justified on the grounds that they provide bursaries and scholarships for the less well off.
Couple of anecdotes for you:
(i) The two kids of some relatives of mine achieved bursaries for them to attend an independent school. But the money was pulled two years later, after the kids had bedded in. The parents now face the prospect of uprooting their children and sending them back to the awful school they fled from, or else finding the eye-watering fees. The same parents tell me they have discovered that bursaries that suddenly disappear like this shortly after the kids have become well-established is a not uncommon occurrence, and may even be a marketing strategy on the part of some schools (so beware).
(ii) The son of a friend of mine separated from his (not rich) mother got an almost full bursary at a famous Oxford school with fees of £7,000 a term. The selection process? A non-academic interview, with Dad in tow to see if the school thought the little chap would (as Dad said) "fit in". I am sure that the fact that the kid is well-spoken, his father a posh-voiced New College school boy and his grandad a Knight of the Realm won't have had anything to do with their generous support for one of the less "privileged" members of our community.
How many kids from local council estates are getting such places, I wonder?
Yes I know it's anecdotes, but I'd love to see some hard statistics on who is getting bursaries and scholarships, what the criteria are, what selection is taking place, etc.
Scholarships and bursaries are small change to these institutions. The fact that the few they do give out are being dished out so cynically in at least some cases should surely strengthen the case for at least pulling their charitable status.
I see the Independent Schools Council says they have "little to fear" from questions from the Charity Commission about public benefit. If the Charity Commission investigates more thoroughly, I suspect the independent sector has a great deal to fear. Here's the sort of question I'd like the C.C. to press: how many children from council estates receive bursaries? And what percentage of those receiving bursaries come from families where neither parent was either privately educated or attended a grammar school? I think this kind of information would be rather more revealing than just data about parental income. In particular, I suspect it would reveal that kids of the educated middle classes are actually the main beneficiaries.
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So before examining banning private schools or not, surely we need to get our state schools in order which means dealing with the hidden selection issue of faith schools and post code selection - which is again on a lower level related to the same factors as for parents who can afford private schools - to make our state schools properly meritocratic.
One answer, I suggest, is to allow for explicit peer group selection in state schools and remove the current hidden selection via faith schools and post codes. Still is there anything wrong with local kids going to local schools? There one needs to deal with the post code premium based on perceived local school quality versus a reasonable expectation of parents for similar kids studying together.
A final point is that how does one deal with private and extra tuition for pupils in state schools, assuming that private schools are banned?
I share your view that that the only non-arbitrary criterion for admitting a student into a top university is that student's merit. Consequently, the fact that the children of the wealthy chiefly get positions in top schools is unjust. So long as there is an arbitrarily privileged class, it will be impossible to offer the universal opportunity to demonstrate one's merit for professions of high caliber.
However, I am concerned that your proposal to ban private schools is not sufficiently radical. For instance, one of my fellow students here at Indiana University came from Japan, which has a nominally merit-based system of admission to schools. However, in practice, children from wealthy parents are able to attend "cram schools" which ultimately mean that they dominate the best schools in the country. If we want to eliminate the evils that come with private schools, then we need to not only restructure the educational systems of our respective countries so that they are nominally merit-based, but also make other kinds of changes that prevent the system from becoming a de facto class based one.
On the other hand, take a good grammar school in a wealthy area full of educated people. Social expectation says to aim for a similarly academic career as the parent. Most of the children are brought up with certain expectations, and an academic career is seen as attainable and worth it. Within this environment, yes, it would be so much easier for Johnny to achieve his dream of being a doctor, and the same in the independent sector. It's no surprise therefore, that parents move house to put there child into a better environment, some end up paying for this. To quote martino:" but indirectly by selecting their child's peers by school choice."
Social expectation needs to be eradicated.The first step in my opinion is to eradicate private schools, introduce more grammar schools, and eradicate the "local area" selection procedures to "split up" expectation and balance it out. This way, the poorest children from the poorest areas, would meet children from very wealthy backgrounds who would normally have been privately educated, and be influenced by their "expectations." The next step would be to eradicate class-based expectation and tell everyone to learn for the love of learning- do something you enjoy! Try your best at school! Perhaps local authorities could arrange talks in schools with a higher percentage of poorer children, in order to motivate them and their parents. Perhaps all schools should have a stronger, more heavily enforced ethos to ensure that all children, so not expect what sociey destines, but expect their best.