Saturday, March 21, 2009

Troy Brooks's "Perfect Proof" of God

Here is an example (thanks to Mike J) of the kind of weird insanity that religion can instill (n.b. I am NOT saying all religious people are insane!). This chap has a proof of God's existence and is offering $10,000 to anyone who can refute it.

If you would like to make an attempt to disprove the proof for God, there is a forum where you can do so. $10,000 in U.S. dollars (getting cheaper by the day) has been reserved and offered to the first person who can disprove God's proof of Himself. Thousands have tried but failed. Since I am a child of God and thus, set before God with authority in His kingdom and bound for heaven, you can't ask for a better arbitrator. "Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven" (Matt. 18.18). The proof of God has been loosed on Earth so it is loosed in heaven: well approved! Lots of attempts have been made on the forums, and also, read here.


Yes that's right the arbitrator and judge, stamped with Divine authority and approval, of whether you succeed in refuting the proof is, er, Troy himself. Well, good luck then....

11 comments:

Smaug71953 said...

An analogy that anyone in the U.S. could understand would be a coach of a competing team also serving as the referee/umpire in a contest that his team engages in. I would say that the sports coach would probably be less biased.

Do these individuals not possess the slightest sense of irony? I'm always wary that these are parody sites, but for that a sense of satire would be necessary.

Kyle P. said...

"Here is an example (thanks to Mike J) of the kind of weird insanity that religion can instill"

As opposed to the normal insanity that, say, being a soccer fan instills in you?

CodewordConduit said...

@ Kyle P

At least a soccer fan knows that his team lost, even if he believes that they didn't deserve to.

Kyle P. said...

Codeword,
I wasn't trying to mock soccer fans, but you probably realized that. :) And good one - indeed a soccer fan realizes his team lost, and doesn't just deny it and look like a moron. That's why I like soccer more than religion.

anticant said...

Americans don't do irony.

Steven Carr said...

Troy Brooks has been banned from Internet Infidels under many, many guises, mostly for his inability to interact rationally with other people.

Of course, 2000 years ago people like Paul would write letters describing how an angel of Satan was plaguing them, and how the resurrected Jesus would speak to him telling him to grin and bear it.

And nobody would dream of questioning his sanity, not even when he described how he went to the third Heaven.

By the way, the Jesus character tells how the Queen of Sheba would be raised from her grave to fulfill the important duty of condemning 1st century Jews for not believing Jesus.

So obviously in the 'Lord, Liar, Lunatic' trilemma, we can cross out Lunatic as a possibilty....

mjarsulic said...

@Steven Carr,

I agree. Troy had a tendency to jump around to various topics and refused to discuss the proof step-by-step. Eventually, he went off on a long preaching rant and I had to kick him from the chat room. In other words, I doubt it would be useful to open a dialogue with him.

Mr. Hamtastic said...

I guess I don't understand. Is it impossible to disprove this "proof" because he is judging it himself? If, say, a buddhist were the judge, would it then be possible?

If the need for an "objective third-party" to judge everything "fairly" exists, how can any subjective argument be won at all?

Mr. Hamtastic said...

A point about the guy's "proof": Everything in nature has a cause? Does this mean actions,"The dog bit me because I wore steak sauce cologne" or existence,"The dog bit me because thousands of years ago man domesticated a wolf or wolf-like mammal..."

Why do people assume that in the absence of an obvious cause for some tremendous event, it definitely was God or was not caused at all? One question I struggle with, as a christian, is this: if God came into existence with the big bang and is less than omnipotent, is He less of a God than that which should be worshipped? I know, this is sort of like the bully on the playground idea, but I do wonder sometimes. My point, isn't it sort of silly to say "definitely" anything about an event we really have no knowledge of? Isn't all such thought just "best guess"?

Faithful said...

Step 4 of the 4 Step Proof for God disallows the argument that God could have a cause because if there was an eternity of the past of cause and effects not just in the natural but also in the supernatural, mankind would not still be sinning to the extent it still does because of the exponential progression of conscience. Similarly the universe would be experiencing far greater heat death.

Troy said...

What is the ultimate proof for Jesus being God?

Ultimate Proof