Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Sally Morgan - more bullshit


Incidentally, following on from previous post, I just checked out psychic Sally Morgan's amazing video of her identifying, while blindfolded, the famous owner of a jacket at the Hard Rock Cafe London "vault" (where they keep several prized rock and roll relics: jackets, guitars, etc.). Sally fondles the jacket and gradually figures out - he's was an artist, he's dead. "I am seeing Paul McCartney." "I can see the Dakota building in New York - it's John Lennon!"

Even Sally is amazed at her astonishing ability. "Isn't that unbelievable? I can't believe I've done that!"

Well, maybe she went to visit the Cafe vault the previous week - entry free - and saw Lennon's jacket there, a prized possession, hanging in a case. Then when she runs her hands all over it in this clip, she quickly figures out which of the exhibits it is.

This is just embarrassing crap. Go here to see the jacket.

I have already commented on Sally Morgan's other amazing video clip on her website - involving Kim Marsh.

I'm not sure this sort of thing shouldn't be illegal.

Go on Sally - if you are that good, take Randi's challenge!

P.S. As you can see, Sally Morgan seriously pisses me off.

20 comments:

Tony Lloyd said...

Have you seen the first clip on the site? ("Sceptics and Cynics" or some such). Either she's a better actress than Vanessa Redgrave or she really believes that she is doing it. One wonders whether the deception extends to subconsious self-deception.

Anyway Derren Brown does these things way better! (This is quite unbelievable : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEwF4RqTgqg )

Stephen Law said...

I think Sally knows what she is doing.

She has already been caught speaking untruths - see here: http://badpsychics.com/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=490

Sally is shown a picture of the person she is about to read: Big Brother celeb Brian Dowling, and asked if she knows him. "I know *of* him". she says. Then she gives a so-so reading, stuff she could have known by doing a quick internet search on him.

Except she's only just been shown the photo and found out who she's reading, so how could she do any research?

Well, because she *has* met Dowling. In fact she had already given him a reading once before! This information was removed from her website, but can be found on the above link.

Did Sally perhaps already know Dowling would be a potential subject on the show?

This is how psychics like Sally do it - a combination of cold reading (fishing) and hot reading (research). Cold reading can be done without realizing you are doing it - but Sally's also hot reading.

The precise mechanics of what's going on in Sally's TV shows intrigues me. I'd love to be a fly on the wall. To what extent is the TV company, the researchers, Sally's staff, etc. in cahoots?

Sally_bm said...

I'd like to see her do a head-to-head challenge with Derren Brown. Or just be scientifically tested rather than paraded round by ITV production companies. A lot of people are easily pleased by far-from impressive feats, and who knows what proportion of mistakes the editors remove in the name of exciting programming.

Tony Lloyd said...

She has already been caught speaking untruths - see here: http://badpsychics.com/thefraudfiles/modules/news/article.php?storyid=490

That is pretty damning. It's nice to see them caught out. I too am worried by the TV. We know from other things (faked items in documentaries, 'phone ins) that the TV producers are congenitally dishonest. It would surprise me to find the researches wholesale cheating.

Stephen Law said...

Incidentally Tony, notice that Sally's video "response to the sceptics" is to spend ages recounting an amazing feat - Sally picking up that an Australian woman's husband's name was "Tup". But of course we simply have to take Sally's word about what happened.

And the accuracy of Sally's memory of previous readings has already been shown to be, shall we say, rather unreliable!

Stephen Law said...

BTW, re. speaking untruths, I suppose Sally could insist that, regarding knowing Brian Dowling, "Well, I know *of* him" was not, strictly speaking, untrue. Just highly misleading.

jeremy said...

I'm not sure this sort of thing shouldn't be illegal.

Well, imagine I had a TV show where I explore the details behind a particular model of sportscar that few people have yet seen. In the first week I might discuss its revolutionary aerodynamic design, in the second week I would wax lyrical about its powerful engine, etc. The TV show quickly becomes a hit, and I earn a lot of money and fame from it.

But what if, after a year or two, it subsequently emerged that the car didn't exist, and (what's more) that I had consistently known this despite making the TV shows?

There would be an absolute public outcry, and I might very well be charged with fraud.

And yet...

Papilio said...

Regarding whether psychics really think they can do it: footage of Dawkins' documentary (forget its name) showed a dowser who gave a convincing impression of being flabbergasted at failing a dowsing task.

I put this down to a psychological process, similar to what cold readers exploit: the false negatives are quickly glossed over and forgotten, whilst on the occasion you strike gold by chance, you never forget it and nor do the hapless witnesses. The effect works for practitioners and witnesses alike. Homo sapiens has a congenital problem with probability and chance, it seems.

Having said that, there are frauds who know they are frauds and are simply coldly calculating how to make a few spondooliks. The question is, what proportion of those claiming to have magical powers really think they do, and what proportion are straight up frauds?

I still find it odd and perplexing that in the 21st century some people assign a third category: those who claim to have magic powers, and who really do.

The Ranting Student said...

Well, maybe she went to visit the Cafe vault the previous week - entry free - and saw Lennon's jacket there, a prized possession, hanging in a case. Then when she runs her hands all over it in this clip, she quickly figures out which of the exhibits it is.



Seriously. I hate Sally as well, for being just another "psychic" who claims to have mystic powers...

Yeah, go live a fairy tale, Morgan!

I agree though, she has to be a good actress, being astonished by her own fraud.

Good post.

Lee said...

Is this what UK TV become?

Why does TV have 101 shows about ghost hunters, psychics and other frauds – and close to zero ‘critical thinking’/sceptic shows about similar subjects?

I know which would be of more value... but I guess people just want to fool themselves.

Good post

Lee

Anonymous said...

at a local show featuring the self promoting sally morgan over 45 people walked out at the interval

Jacqui said...

Someone Who is psycic is just like an olympian or footballer has a talent that cant be accessible at all times.
if this woman is providing even the slightest message to those lost and providing comfort why slate her every fault and degrade a woman thats only providing hope.
unless there is black and white proof then i dont see why there has to be negativity.
im a sceptic like anyone else..
but just think theres no point in slating her.
and as for her costs n things ..
she charges so much as this lessens the fact EVERYONE who has lost would want a reading and a talent can have off days.

Anonymous said...

Having just seen Sally Morgan on TV, she struck me as a pure, albeit a good... show woman. Now, here's the sinister part. She; like many others of their ilk are praying on people who feel a great need to hear information regarding someone who was obviously dear to them. Which means that she's taking advantage of people who're at their lowest point. I feel great sympathy for these bereaved people, having someone spout a load of bullshit about their long lost loved one is shameful. I will take ALL back, as soon as someone posts up unequivocally backed scientific proof.... Until then, you have a better chance of seeing pigs fly. Shame on her, shame on all these fakes and shame on the TV stations that promote them.

Anonymous said...

Great article. Please somebody do something about this blatant faker. How can she live with guilt? It does make you wonder about the sanity of these 'psychics' who believe their own lies. Take the Randi Challenge Sally, if you are so sure of your 'gift'. Hmmmm.. don't think you will though. Its easier to earn a million by duping gullible audiences and 'celebrities' with your tricks of hot and cold reading. There should be a law against it. Check out the facebook page 'sally morgan psychic or charlatan'.

Anonymous said...

If you can listen to RTE radio 1 online today some very angry audience members that saw Sally Morgan in the grand canal theatre Dublin rang in. Many of them heard a man in a room behind them feeding her information, as he spoke moments later she repeated what he said they figured there where people planted in the audience to eavesdrop on people talking about loved ones they wanted to hear from, v sad. You. Should be able to hear the show online it aired on 12th sept at 2pm.

Anonymous said...

If you can listen to RTE radio 1 online today some very angry audience members that saw Sally Morgan in the grand canal theatre Dublin rang in. Many of them heard a man in a room behind them feeding her information, as he spoke moments later she repeated what he said they figured there where people planted in the audience to eavesdrop on people talking about loved ones they wanted to hear from, v sad. You. Should be able to hear the show online it aired on 12th sept at 2pm.

Anonymous said...

How about a lie detector test, we could all club together and buy her one for Christmas.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering how much information she could gather from when people book tickets. Does anyone know what information is given by people when they book tickets?

Anonymous said...

aparrently she asks people to write on cards about their loved and she uses photos. This is mentioned in her new book. Why does psychic need that kind of info if they are real. genuine mediums do not need information in any way. But there is a rash of psychics and wannabes.

Gary said...

Shouldn't this really be made illegal? It's one thing going around someones house with their permission to try to 'contact' a deceased loved one and do it for free, that's up to the individual to decide the truth, and, at no cost to that individual. Strange then that these people who claim to have 'special powers' always charge considerable sums and yet claim to be there to help us poor folk that have lost a loved one. For these, so called 'mediums and spiritualists' to publicly defraud thousands of people by convincing them they can 'contact' deceased loved ones, taking advantage of those who are at their lowest and most vunerable for monetary gain, when it has been proved time and time again it's a con. This is fraud and should be punishable as fraud.