tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post4194741719613581936..comments2024-03-22T06:22:08.010+00:00Comments on Stephen Law: Andalucia - switchbacks accident and Sye's "script"Stephen Lawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02167317543994731177noreply@blogger.comBlogger111125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-9313200438874820122011-11-06T16:08:16.752+00:002011-11-06T16:08:16.752+00:00This is a very interesting discussion. One which ...This is a very interesting discussion. 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You...This is such a disastrous situation to happen. You wouldn’t believe it if I told you but I’ve been in a situation like this, I had to find a <A HREF="http://www.alawpro.com" REL="nofollow">Los Angeles Car accident lawyer</A> and everything, the whole nine yards. It was a horrible experience, it’s over for me now though. Time heals all wounds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-53122912532875261692008-08-02T04:59:00.000+00:002008-08-02T04:59:00.000+00:00What word are you having difficulty with?We have a...<I>What word are you having difficulty with?</I><BR/><BR/>We have already established via our gracious host that when you use words (such as "proof"), they somehow take on meanings that most people would not expect. I am therefore interested to clarify exactly what you mean before I answer the question, in the interests of providing you with an accurate answer.<BR/><BR/>So once again - please define exactly what you mean by "highest authority" (is it the same as "ultimate authority"?) and which decisions you're referring to (what time to have dinner?).Paul Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13361948689477122420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-54441103274462830742008-08-02T00:36:00.000+00:002008-08-02T00:36:00.000+00:00Paul C. said:"Please define exactly what you mean ...Paul C. said:<BR/><BR/><I>"Please define exactly what you mean by "highest authority"</I><BR/><BR/>What word are you having difficulty with?<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>SyeSye TenBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695428662014842212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-66765742987883083332008-08-02T00:31:00.000+00:002008-08-02T00:31:00.000+00:00What is your highest authority when making decisio...<I>What is your highest authority when making decisions?</I><BR/><BR/>Please define exactly what you mean by "highest authority" (is it the same as "ultimate authority"?) and which decisions you're referring to (what time to have dinner?).Paul Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13361948689477122420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-35220531515875096952008-08-01T17:13:00.000+00:002008-08-01T17:13:00.000+00:00Sye,first off the SUN is not TRUE. Secondly, witho...Sye,<BR/>first off the SUN is not TRUE. Secondly, without a method of resolution your proposition is merely a relative statement about the past and not an absolute (not relative) one.<BR/><BR/>The "law of non-contradiction" is a language game that applies to your experience, not the world. In other words, before there was mind there were no objects to contradict eachother or themselves. There was nothing being proposed. Therefore the law is systemic, not absolute.<BR/><BR/>All the law of non-contradiction says is that you cannot have contradicting propositions (A cannot be -A). And again, where are the propositions without mind? What you say about the world is relative to you, what you say (your language), and what your saying it about, and contingent upon the means of coming to a given conclusion.<BR/><BR/>Answer me this Sye, what color was your hair before you were born?Andrew Louishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18204999524677028033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-68272032107328321042008-08-01T13:00:00.000+00:002008-08-01T13:00:00.000+00:00New posts are available!New posts are available!Stephen Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02167317543994731177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-89756816918647336742008-08-01T12:58:00.000+00:002008-08-01T12:58:00.000+00:00CASE said: "When are you going to learn that all l...CASE said: <I>"When are you going to learn that all logic is the result of human reasoning and is subject to the flaws of human beings?"</I><BR/><BR/>Could the sun have been both the sun, and not the sun, at the same time, and in the same way, before humans existed?<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>SyeSye TenBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695428662014842212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-74370505535704724002008-08-01T12:50:00.000+00:002008-08-01T12:50:00.000+00:00Paul C. said: "What do you mean by "ultimate autho...Paul C. said: <I>"What do you mean by "ultimate authority"?</I><BR/><BR/>What is your highest authority when making decisions?Sye TenBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695428662014842212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-3163948734301969342008-08-01T12:27:00.000+00:002008-08-01T12:27:00.000+00:00anticat said: "I haven't MET Get_Education, Smarty...anticat said: <I>"I haven't MET Get_Education, Smartypants!"</I><BR/><BR/>Well, if you ever do, you best not ask him :-D<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>SyeSye TenBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695428662014842212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-41105583234867237072008-08-01T10:29:00.000+00:002008-08-01T10:29:00.000+00:00Why would being one’s own god, necessitate proclam...<I>Why would being one’s own god, necessitate proclamation of same? Watch this: Paul C. what is your ultimate authority?</I><BR/><BR/>What do you mean by "ultimate authority"?Paul Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13361948689477122420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-25227362404028272562008-08-01T06:18:00.000+00:002008-08-01T06:18:00.000+00:00I haven't MET Get_Education, Smartypants!I haven't MET Get_Education, Smartypants!anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-92010205957165447542008-08-01T04:28:00.000+00:002008-08-01T04:28:00.000+00:00Sye - clearly you don't understand the difference ...Sye - clearly you don't understand the difference between an absolute truth and a systemic one. Thats ok - you can still get educated, there is still hope. <BR/><BR/>When are you going to learn that all logic is the result of human reasoning and is subject to the flaws of human beings? Just because you "think" something is absolutely true makes no skerric of difference to the universe as a whole. <BR/><BR/>PS - you got snapped on here, again. And you got posted onto Fundies say the darndest things(www.fstdt.com)CASE - now with holinesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08525074735510880518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-58067484089515414462008-08-01T03:55:00.000+00:002008-08-01T03:55:00.000+00:00Anticant said: "EVERY ex-Christian that I have eve...Anticant said: <I>"EVERY ex-Christian that I have ever met who has become an atheist [a good many], that I have asked whether or not they knew along along that God didn't exist has said "Yes"."</I><BR/><BR/>Well, I guess you didn't ask Get_Education then: <BR/><BR/><I>"I am saying that my a priori position was Christian Theistic"</I><BR/><BR/>(Logic and God II - July 31, 2008 2:35 PM)<BR/><BR/>:-D<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>SyeSye TenBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695428662014842212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-84737619078404687342008-07-31T21:00:00.000+00:002008-07-31T21:00:00.000+00:00Sye says: EVERY atheist that I have ever met who h...Sye says: EVERY atheist that I have ever met who has become a Christian, that I have asked whether or not they knew all along that God existed has said "Yes."<BR/><BR/>EVERY ex-Christian that I have ever met who has become an atheist [a good many], that I have asked whether or not they knew along along that God didn't exist has said "Yes".anticanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135207107619114891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-48298858312538757162008-07-31T17:40:00.000+00:002008-07-31T17:40:00.000+00:00Reynold said: "Why do you assume that we are all "...Reynold said: <I>"Why do you assume that we are all "denying" the existence of your god as opposed to actually not believing he or she exists?"</I><BR/><BR/>A couple of reasons, 1. That is what the Bible teaches, and 2 EVERY atheist that I have ever met who has become a Christian, that I have asked whether or not they knew all along that God existed has said "Yes." I did not need that confirmation of God's Word, but it don't hurt :-)<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>SyeSye TenBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695428662014842212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-68062304985444582232008-07-31T16:59:00.000+00:002008-07-31T16:59:00.000+00:00Sye TenBPeople have nothing to gain by denying tha...<B>Sye TenB</B><BR/><I>People have nothing to gain by denying that the sun will rise, but denying the existence of God, allows them (temporarily) to be their own gods.</I><BR/>Why do you assume that we are all "denying" the existence of your god as opposed to actually not believing he or she exists?Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-44122494905356659692008-07-31T16:35:00.000+00:002008-07-31T16:35:00.000+00:00@ Paul C,I said: ”People have nothing to gain by d...@ Paul C,<BR/><BR/>I said: ”People have nothing to gain by denying that the sun will rise, but denying the existence of God, allows them (temporarily) to be their own gods.”<BR/><BR/>You said: <I>”This would make sense if, in addition to denying the existence of God, the same people proclaimed themselves God. Since almost none of them in fact do this, we can safely conclude that your argument is baseless.”</I><BR/><BR/>Why would being one’s own god, necessitate proclamation of same? Watch this: Paul C. what is your ultimate authority? <BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>SyeSye TenBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695428662014842212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-26004030285170955952008-07-31T13:48:00.000+00:002008-07-31T13:48:00.000+00:00Reynold said he "Can't find any bible verses to sh...Reynold said he "Can't find any bible verses to show that your god even knows what the laws of logic are?"<BR/>I can find plenty of evidence that, if the Jewish/Christian god does know them, he doesn't follow them. <BR/>The list of contradictions in the Bible in a long one - see, for example<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/yu33x5 for<BR/>http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-42974944662079502272008-07-31T13:34:00.000+00:002008-07-31T13:34:00.000+00:00Also, Sye's counter-argument fails to address Andr...Also, Sye's counter-argument fails to address Andrew's actual point, which is that the existence of the sun is self-evident, whereas the existence of Sye's God is not at all self-evident.<BR/><BR/>This seems particularly strange to me because as well as allegedly being the grounding for all physical and non-physical phenomena, Sye's God is supposed to be omnipresent and omnipotent.Paul Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13361948689477122420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-45843966063431148142008-07-31T13:30:00.000+00:002008-07-31T13:30:00.000+00:00People have nothing to gain by denying that the su...<I>People have nothing to gain by denying that the sun will rise, but denying the existence of God, allows them (temporarily) to be their own gods.</I><BR/><BR/>This would make sense if, in addition to denying the existence of God, the same people proclaimed themselves God. Since almost none of them in fact do this, we can safely conclude that your argument is baseless.Paul Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13361948689477122420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-75616106229114262342008-07-31T13:06:00.000+00:002008-07-31T13:06:00.000+00:00Andrew Louis said: "On the other hand people DO go...Andrew Louis said: <I>"On the other hand people DO go around preaching about God. Why do you suppose this is?"</I><BR/><BR/>Perhaps because they are obeying God's command.<BR/><BR/>People have nothing to gain by denying that the sun will rise, but denying the existence of God, allows them (temporarily) to be their own gods.<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>SyeSye TenBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05695428662014842212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-49958545200281566612008-07-31T12:17:00.000+00:002008-07-31T12:17:00.000+00:00Here's an off the wall question for you Sye, on th...Here's an off the wall question for you Sye, on the nature of things being self evident.<BR/><BR/>It's clear that we don't see people roaming around preaching the good news that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. Whether or not you agree that people find this self evident, clearly all people do. <BR/><BR/>On the other hand people DO go around preaching about God. Why do you suppose this is? If he is so self evident and he reveals himself in much the same way as the sun rising in the morning, it would be trivial to discuss the matter, let alone go around preaching about it.<BR/><BR/>To paraphrase Nietzsche:<BR/>when a thing becomes known, it is no longer a concern.Andrew Louishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18204999524677028033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-79147183568908283792008-07-31T07:48:00.000+00:002008-07-31T07:48:00.000+00:00Sam, I have stuff on MacIntyre etc. in The War For...Sam, I have stuff on MacIntyre etc. in The War For Children's Minds.Stephen Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02167317543994731177noreply@blogger.com