tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post2593055026915409826..comments2024-03-22T06:22:08.010+00:00Comments on Stephen Law: 'Scientism!'Stephen Lawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02167317543994731177noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-46264966800428948812017-08-02T08:39:46.123+00:002017-08-02T08:39:46.123+00:00Re: ''these limits typically offer little ...Re: ''these limits typically offer little comfort to religious, New Age, and other folk looking for ways to immunize their beliefs against scientific refutation.''<br /><br /><br />Religious folk have beliefs, and many 'New Age' folk, as they haven't done any true spiritual work, such as talking to god. That's truth, not belief.<br /><br />When u have you will have not need any comfort from any human person or science.<br /><br />"White man goes into his churches to talk about Jesus, the Indian into his Tepee to talk to Jesus (with Peyote etc)."--Quanah Parker http://whale.to/a/psychedelics_h.html<br /><br />Religion is just mind control, why they ban the Power or Medicine plant medicine.<br /><br />Scientism is just Matrix science. Atheism is it's foundation stone, Big Pharma relies on it, and Big Pharma is the biggest money earning racket.<br /><br />They can get away with the absurd belief the human body, immune system, was/is badly designed and they need to work on it with vaccines http://whale.to/vaccines.html<br /><br />and herbs aren't proper medicine, unless made into drugs.<br /><br />In reality herbal naturopathy cures all diseases http://whale.to/y/herbal1.html<br />As does nutritional medicine, eg vit c cures all infections http://whale.to/a/vitamin_c_banners.html<br /><br />Dawkins is one of their thought police, he is a member of CSICOP http://whale.to/a/dawkins_h.html<br /><br />He admitted he had never taken a power plant, and he only attacks Religious priests, not true spiritual people, like John Lilly <br /><br />and he attacks Homeopathy, non-drug med, and defends the mass maiming and useless MMR vaccine http://whale.to/vaccines/mmr.html<br /><br />The other great example of Scientism thought control is their absurd idea the earth is round http://whale.to/c/flat_earth.html<br /><br />and they went to the moon.<br /><br />They also have suppressed free energy science http://whale.to/b/free_energy_h.html<br /><br />Anti-gravity science http://whale.to/b/ufo_man_h.html<br /><br />and so onWhale.tohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01117580693259568242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-31162203113418867692017-06-04T10:07:22.404+00:002017-06-04T10:07:22.404+00:00Just a quick addition...
When Dawkins writes:
“A...Just a quick addition...<br /><br />When Dawkins writes:<br /><br />“A designer god cannot be used to explain organized complexity because any god capable of designing anything would have to be complex enough to demand the same kind of explanation in his own right. God presents an infinite regress from which he cannot help us escape. (2006, 136)”<br /><br />He is missing something important vis a vis organised complexity; for complexity and stability are proportionally related, i.e. the more complex a system the more stable it becomes (and the simpler the laws governing the system become).<br /><br />Therefore, if we consider a creator god to be infinitely complex it will also follow that the said god will also be infinitely stable, i.e. unchanging. <br /><br />So, it is reasonable to use a complexity argument, it logically follows.<br /><br />This is what Wittgenstein means when he writes:<br /><br />“The mystical is not how the world is, but that it is.”<br /><br />This is the “empirical” evidence of God.<br /><br />St Paul in Romans states the same thing.<br />Philip Randnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-71691773250719138722017-03-24T15:26:36.764+00:002017-03-24T15:26:36.764+00:00I enjoyed and agreed with your assessment of this ...I enjoyed and agreed with your assessment of this issue. I've heard you on several podcasts, and really like your evil god hypothesis thought-experiment. <br />Sure would like to see you contact Sam Harris and get together on his Waking Up podcast! :)DZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14624710037452314209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-9997740817139386212017-03-13T20:23:43.740+00:002017-03-13T20:23:43.740+00:00FYI, pain is an output of the brain and not c-fibe...FYI, pain is an output of the brain and not c-fiber firing. You can have pain with or without c-fiber firing. Look up Ronald Melzack.Mark Szlazakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17003760977254893106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-59053284596674433902017-02-13T16:00:06.614+00:002017-02-13T16:00:06.614+00:00"No doubt some things really are beyond the a..."No doubt some things really are beyond the ability of science, and perhaps even reason, to decide."<br /><br />And as such are beyond human knowledge. There are no other ways of knowing that we know of. All claims to other ways of knowing amount to nothing more than assertions. Nothing factual (about imagined other realms) has evern been demostrated by anyone claiming there are other ways of knowing.Ron Murphyhttps://ronmurp.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-5147090983420416752017-02-13T14:57:51.614+00:002017-02-13T14:57:51.614+00:00For anyone interested, I've written a response...For anyone interested, I've written a response to this post <a href="https://coelsblog.wordpress.com/2017/02/13/on-stephen-law-on-scientism/" rel="nofollow">on my blog</a>, outlining two areas where I'd disagree with Dr Law. Coelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08597364388910614174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-62474820663623118162017-01-26T08:17:01.675+00:002017-01-26T08:17:01.675+00:00The term scientism has been around a long time. It...The term scientism has been around a long time. It's been around a lot longer than new age.,I have never seen it applied to new age but I've seen it applied to attitudes about science by mainstream science people are nevertheless gung ho on science as the only from of knowledge. <br /><br />It's not helping to muddle the argument by trying to pretend that all different versions of saying the same thing constitute different ideas. some of then do but but all. The idea that science is the only form of knowledge and that only scientific knowledge is important as knowledge are the same thing, for all practical purposes.. there are other ways to say it.<br /><br />The oldest use of the term "scietism" that I can pin down to a specific source (Iam a historian of ideas, I study history of science) is by George Richmond Walker, "Art, Science, and Realikty," Bulletin of Atomkc Sciemtists, (sept 1964) 9. <a href="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=wm#label/Personal%2FGSI/1462e3fe92c3ba7b?projector=1" rel="nofollow"><b>on line copy</b></a> accessed 1/20/17 <br /><br />He was not talking about new age movement,but mainstrea science.<br /><br />Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-12793873519264906142017-01-18T06:41:59.478+00:002017-01-18T06:41:59.478+00:00So excited by what I've read so far. Might not...So excited by what I've read so far. Might not make it back to say thanks later when I finish, but have read enough to feel tremendously grateful. I appreciate your work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com