tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post5705361746537424829..comments2024-03-22T06:22:08.010+00:00Comments on Stephen Law: Centre for Inquiry - visitStephen Lawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02167317543994731177noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-70254468769808078932008-07-16T07:53:00.000+00:002008-07-16T07:53:00.000+00:00Stephen, I'd like to suggest a strategic alliance ...Stephen, I'd like to suggest a strategic alliance between British Humanist Association Science Group (BHA Science) http://www.bhascience.org.uk/ and the CfI Naturalism Research Project Group http://www.centerforinquiry.net/research/introduction/ in which we pool the resources of BHA and CfI to promote Philosophical Naturalism (aka Scientific Naturalism)crabsalloverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310281888611427075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-23169457975560522352008-07-10T17:02:00.000+00:002008-07-10T17:02:00.000+00:00I'd second the comment about making the material a...I'd second the comment about making the material available online. It can only help to popularise these events and make the name more recognised across the world.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379585726867301887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-22515292336258098662008-07-10T16:25:00.000+00:002008-07-10T16:25:00.000+00:00Thanks for all the suggestions - very helpful. Got...Thanks for all the suggestions - very helpful. Got jet lag so not very with it, currently...Stephen Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02167317543994731177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-79048060307902209322008-07-10T07:13:00.000+00:002008-07-10T07:13:00.000+00:00I would be interested in a course on "The Scientif...I would be interested in a course on "The Scientific Method" and the Philosophy of Science.crabsalloverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310281888611427075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-41684244092391548362008-07-09T22:27:00.000+00:002008-07-09T22:27:00.000+00:00How about a comparison of Intelligent Design as pr...How about a comparison of Intelligent Design as preached by Creationists compared to a view of what would constitute evidence of intelligent design to mainstream scientists and philosophers?<BR/><BR/>The sort of question arises if we find something which we suspect of being an artifact. If it is incomplete or non-functional by reason of age or exposure to harsh conditions how do we deterine whether it is <BR/>(a) a product of intelligence <BR/>(b) a product of non-intelligent life (c) a product of a natural process <BR/>(d) just a fluke <BR/><BR/>The two extreme cases are I guess a "widget" found on Mars (aliens?) or a strangely chipped rock on Earth (flint knapping or erosion?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-43317961175681270672008-07-09T21:18:00.000+00:002008-07-09T21:18:00.000+00:00ps Great issue of Think! I can't single out an art...ps Great issue of Think! I can't single out an article cos so many are really brilliant!Sally_bmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581010343971175339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-23937924345566241112008-07-09T21:17:00.000+00:002008-07-09T21:17:00.000+00:00What about something to clarify the area of relati...What about something to clarify the area of relativism vs toleration of other cultures etc? Where do we draw the line between tolerating differences and opposing immoral behaviour? This issue leads to lots of harmful opinions escaping out into the ether. "Harmful opinions", lol... debate topic number 2...Sally_bmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581010343971175339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-62781074241912212532008-07-09T09:34:00.000+00:002008-07-09T09:34:00.000+00:00Oops That should have read"I hope someone will be ...Oops That should have read<BR/>"I hope someone will be keeping an eye on the Royal Society calendar to avoid <B>clashes</B>." not <B>lashes</B><BR/><BR/>I am quite sure they would not resort to such punishment!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-24569659291662244522008-07-09T00:01:00.000+00:002008-07-09T00:01:00.000+00:00"I'd be interested in a secular examination of the...<EM>"I'd be interested in a secular examination of the angst some people experience at the thought of a purposeless universe."</EM><BR/><BR/>V. good suggestion. It's a puzzle, that one.<BR/><BR/>You'd think that realising that we live in a purposeless universe would take a load of everyone's mind. Kind of like cramming for an exam you know you can't possibly pass, only to be told that there isn't an exam after all.Incitatus4Congresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08099138083845953108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-66310624827833482332008-07-08T21:25:00.000+00:002008-07-08T21:25:00.000+00:00Even though they've been done before I think the d...Even though they've been done before I think the debunking of psychics is very important (as did "Lee" http://www.blogger.com/profile/10707252275624009014) Maybe you could combine this with debunking faux rationality, bad science, authoritarian thought etc. The sort of stuff that doesn't just rip off a few gullible people but affects us all. Like the government guidelines on drinking that were just made up (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article2697975.ece) or the bogus "brain gym" we're being taxed to pay for (http://www.badscience.net/2008/04/bbc-newsnight-mine-the-brain-gym-comedy-mountain/). It also gives rationality and science a bad name, leading people into the arms of psychics and giving succour to creationists.<BR/><BR/>I get really fed up of theists of all types complaining that it’s just the few “bad apples” that spoil the reputation and expect others to “do something”. I couldn’t give a toss about Islam: it’s <B>their</B> religion <B>they</B> should sort it out. And so rationalism should sort out <B>its</B> “bad apples”.<BR/><BR/>You should be able to get Ben Goldacre (of badscience.net) to do some good exposés<BR/><BR/>Karl Popper’s pupil and colleague David Miller has a good line in slapping down the pretensions of science to some sort of specially-warranted knowledge. Eg: http://intl.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/284/5420/1625 (I’ve posted that one before!).<BR/><BR/>Dare I suggest (as a counterpoint) Steve Fuller? Who testified on <B>behalf</B> of the IDers in the Kitzmiller trial?Tony Lloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03740295390214409286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-48713414831220042062008-07-08T17:28:00.000+00:002008-07-08T17:28:00.000+00:00Hey, how do you like Amherst? Funny place, isn't i...Hey, how do you like Amherst? Funny place, isn't it? And that campus - whew.<BR/><BR/>But the CfI library is way cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-55980921071868989622008-07-08T09:49:00.000+00:002008-07-08T09:49:00.000+00:00The debate format has to be carefully considered. ...The debate format has to be carefully considered. I've seen a lot of these (online) and the traditional opening statement-rebuttals-final remarks pattern, although making for a good bear pit atmosphere, doesn't leave the audience much wiser.<BR/><BR/>Better would be to have a couple of armchairs on stage, have the debate more of a conversation, with a moderator to keep the ship on a rough course.<BR/><BR/>How about a course in critical thinking? Depends who it is pitched at, but there is a distinct lack of it.<BR/><BR/>(Slightly off-topic, but this a.m. I heard a member of the synod say that it was the 'mind of Christ' that there should be no women bishops! Because in an old book a character called Jesus chose 12 male disciples! (nothing to do with the way the church was and is dominated by men). When did Jesus say he wanted his followers to erect churches, elect bishops and a pope? Personally I don't see why women or gays would want to be a part of such an institution... to say that I nearly died of apoplexy would capture my response aptly.)Jithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14591821557158009912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-8955603713013297302008-07-08T09:34:00.000+00:002008-07-08T09:34:00.000+00:00All of those sound interesting to me. Perhaps ther...All of those sound interesting to me. Perhaps there could also be debates on other areas of topical interest e.g. faith schools, creationism, alternative medicine etc?Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17369291708879545309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-28236531889157192752008-07-08T09:07:00.000+00:002008-07-08T09:07:00.000+00:00Maybe(part of)these events could be available on t...Maybe(part of)these events could be available on the net later on?<BR/>Some of us live too far away to attend. Would be great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-55321487296835384112008-07-08T08:25:00.000+00:002008-07-08T08:25:00.000+00:00Something on secular parenting, perhaps, and (thou...Something on secular parenting, perhaps, and (though not necessarily an <I>event</I>), British podcasts similar to CFI's Point of Inquiry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-4652649871126209312008-07-07T23:39:00.000+00:002008-07-07T23:39:00.000+00:001 through 6 sound really great. I would be interes...1 through 6 sound really great. I would be interested to hear what you had to say about 3 on this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-64282018742664690292008-07-07T21:49:00.000+00:002008-07-07T21:49:00.000+00:00Oh and I'd like to see the Rev. Sam give a talk on...Oh and I'd like to see the Rev. Sam give a talk on set theory in post-realist theology. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-62597635640115965352008-07-07T21:38:00.000+00:002008-07-07T21:38:00.000+00:00There are a couple of other emotional themes relat...There are a couple of other emotional themes related to the "purposeless universe dread" that seem to crop up as good candidates for a non-religious perspective.<BR/><BR/>1) The religious need to worship. I have heard this described as "the need to express gratitude to someone". <BR/><BR/>2) The sense of the transcendent/divine possibly experienced through music art or looking at the stars, possibly though practices such as meditation. Wasn't there a thread here at some point? <BR/><BR/>3) Sin. Where it comes from. Why we feel guilty when we have done something wrong. Why we feel better if we atone for our transgressions. How do atheists explain these feelings if they do not come from God(s)? Lots of ethics to be had here. <BR/><BR/>I hope someone will be keeping an eye on the Royal Society calendar to avoid lashes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-79185234218030713612008-07-07T20:30:00.000+00:002008-07-07T20:30:00.000+00:00Yes that's a very good idea. I'll have a think abo...Yes that's a very good idea. I'll have a think about who might be able to do it....Stephen Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02167317543994731177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1905686568472747305.post-68552520175020491672008-07-07T19:56:00.000+00:002008-07-07T19:56:00.000+00:00I'd be interested in a secular examination of the ...I'd be interested in a secular examination of the angst some people experience at the thought of a purposeless universe. <BR/><BR/>Although I'm not too interested in a therapeutic analysis of the big questions of life and death, I would be interested in attending a thoroughly secular and rational critique of the dread and despair which some say is meant to follow a Godless universe (i.e., much like the stuff you write in this blog actually!).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com